Showing posts with label Cindy Kiro. Show all posts
Showing posts with label Cindy Kiro. Show all posts

Tuesday, February 17, 2009

Cindy Kiro's stance on Youth Justice lacks punch

Cindy Kiro, the pointlessly useless Children's Commissioner has whipped herself into a lather (that has got to be illegal!) over Nationals plan to to something about some of our moronic, wasted youth by putting them in "boot camps".

Tougher, longer sentences have not deterred criminals and all the evidence suggests initiatives that are punitive, employ shock-tactics, or use corrective training as the basis for reforming young offenders are largely ineffective.

"The most effective ways of reforming child and youth offenders focus on addressing the issues in their lives rather than just dishing out punishment. Reform comes from teaching them new skills for addressing their problems. "The hype around escalating serious youth offending and alleged public concerns about unsafe communities is not supported by data. The figures have stayed quite steady for the past 10 years. voxy.co.nz


Ciro underplays the seriousness of the problem and ignores the fact that "tougher sentences" are not being applied at all, in fact quite often young offenders do not get punished or get made to takes responsibility at all and that is the problem we are talking about here.

Kiro's stance is yet more evidence that she is out of touch, ignorant of the facts and not doing her job properly.


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Thursday, November 20, 2008

Like tits on a bull

"...the nature of the issues are complicated and require multiple solutions." Cindy Kiro, 19 Nov 2008.


Cindy was talking-oh if only if she actually DID someting rather than talk-about the Nia Glassie child murder case and child abuse in general.

She goes on in the same article.

"...people need to realise that poverty also played a part..." Cindy Kiro, 19 Nov 2008 

Lets address Kiros first quote.

How complicated is it to remove welfare from those that produce kids for that welfare then maim and kill children, and how difficult is it to make those individuals and groups responsible for doing such despicable things to kids?

In a normal world where personal responsibility reigns it is easy. If you removed the easy welfare the problem would largely go away and if you dealt severely to those already on the wrong side of the tracks when  they offended, against property, other citizens and children you would soon send the right message and the abuse would be cut.

No welfare equals no breeding deadbeat morons who kill kids for fun Cindy.

With knuckle dragging lazy self centered PC morons like Cindy though personal responsibility goes out the window with appropriate punishment.

Her second quote makes no sense at all.

Poverty playing a part in child murder is laughable. Back in the 1930s New Zealand experienced horendous poverty and the Nia Glassies and Kahuis of this world simply didn't happen. Kiro lives in a fantasy world where the perpetrators of these awful crimes are clearly victims too.

New Zealand doesn't need the talkers like big Cindy, we need people who take action.

Under her position as Childrens Commissioner we have seen more murders of babies than at any other time.

Kiros support for the repeal of section 59 that has stopped parents from lovingly correcting their children's behaviour with a smack and risks more violence in the future as these children brought up under such a regime go uncorrected and run wild without the boundaries of appropriate correction.

This bloated, overpaid, limp wristed Labour Party appointed bureaucratic drone, who clearly only gets exercise above her neck needs to go. To say Cindy is as useless as tits on a bull is being nice to her.

May I suggest Celia Lashlie in her place?




Thursday, July 3, 2008

You can take the family out of South Auckland

Yet another slap in the face for the repeal of section 59, or the "anti smacking" law. The latest death of a 7 year old boy in Nelson, shows the failure that this law is. Deaths and beatings have actually increased, which is, with thick irony, because of the relaxation in the law.

Just like the removal of corporal punishment in schools over 20 years ago -and we have the knuckle dragging hand wringer Cindy Kiro, who was at the forefront of the removal of section 59 bleating about bullying in schools today(cant you see the connection Cindy!)- we are beginning to see that the anti smacking law will breed more violence, teachers have found that out and parents now know this to be the case and our kids will suffer badly as a result.

In the meantime more innocent good parents are being victimised by police and government bureaucrats for slapping their child on the wrist.

The family concerned in the NZ herald story below are originally from that successful social experiment in South Auckland, where welfare is king, personal responsibility is a four letter word, and dependence on the State rules.


5:00AM Thursday July 03, 2008
By Elizabeth Binning and Beck Vass
Police at the Stoke house where the 7-year-boy was found dead. Photo / Tim Cuff

Police at the Stoke house where the 7-year-boy was found dead. Photo / Tim Cuff

Police investigating the "suspected homicide" of a 7-year-old boy have arrested a former South Auckland man and charged him with assault.

The man, believed to be the boy's stepfather, will appear in the Nelson District Court today.

Police started a homicide inquiry after being alerted to the boy's death at his Stoke home by ambulance staff about 11.40am.

It is the second suspected child abuse case this week.

A 3-year-old Avondale boy was still fighting for his life in the Starship hospital yesterday after being admitted on Monday.

Police were tight-lipped on details of the Nelson inquiry but the Herald has learned it is a suspected child bashing. Continued


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Wednesday, July 2, 2008

NZ HERALD: Police called in as toddler fights for life

Yet another child is injured. Just as many, if not more children have been hurt or killed since the anti smacking legislation was introduced over one year ago.

This is an indictment of failure for this legislation and common sense suggested before it was passed that the bill was about restricting parents rights and increasing State influence rather than caring about our kids.

Cindy Kiro, Susie Bradford and Especially Ms Clark should hang their heads in a collectivist shame.

What they will do while our kids are being bashed like the one below though is wring their hands as they always do, and tell New Zealanders that it is "everyone's fault", not the bad parents fed by Labour's Welfare State that are responsible.


5:00AM Wednesday July 02, 2008
By Elizabeth Binning
A child abuse team was alerted after the toddler's injuries raised suspicion. Photo / Martin Sykes

A child abuse team was alerted after the toddler's injuries raised suspicion. Photo / Martin Sykes

An Auckland toddler is fighting for his life after being taken to hospital with serious injuries that are now being investigated by police.

It is understood the 3-year-old Avondale boy suffered the injuries while in the care of his family early this week.

The family are believed to have sought advice from relatives in Glen Innes before the boy was taken to Starship hospital on Monday afternoon.

Police were alerted to the possible case of child abuse by medical authorities at 4.30pm.

The Herald understands the boy has several injuries, including serious head injuries. continued

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Monday, May 26, 2008

NZ HERALD: Poll reveals we're still smacking our children


In the wake of the acquittal of Chris Kahui for murdering his 2 young children and not a thing said in the media by Sue Bradford, she is out again today trying to make good parents who give their children a corrective smack criminals and normalise that-Political Animal

Sue Bradford celebrates the passing of the anti-smacking law in 2007. Photo / Mark Mitchell
5:00AM Monday May 26, 2008
By Angela Gregory
NZ HERALD : Almost half of parents with children under 12 have smacked them in the past year, a survey has found.

The Family First lobby group commissioned a market research company to poll New Zealanders on their attitudes to parental discipline since the anti-smacking law came into effect in June last year.

It found that 48 per cent of respondents with children under 12 had smacked their child after the law change.

The changes to the Crimes Act outlawed the use of parental force against children for purposes of correction.

The issue polarised New Zealanders.

The law change was led by Green MP Sue Bradford, whose private member's bill removed from the Crimes Act the statutory defence of reasonable force to correct a child.

But it was passed only after last-minute changes, approved by a large majority in Parliament, which directed the police not to prosecute inconsequential offences.

Family First's national director, Bob McCoskrie, said he was surprised the polling found so many parents admitting they had flouted the law.

He said 51 per cent of mothers had admitted continuing to smack.

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"For a new law to be ignored by so many people who are willing to risk a police or [Child, Youth and Family] investigation indicates just how out of step with reality this law is."

The nationwide poll surveyed 1018 randomly selected respondents, with a fairly even spread of men and women aged from 18.

About a quarter of the respondents had children under 12.

Mr McCoskrie said the poll followed a similar one done in June last year, just after the new law came into effect.

In that survey, 78 per cent of parents said they would smack their child to correct their behaviour if they believed it was reasonable to do so.

Ms Bradford said yesterday that the new poll indicated an improvement in attitudes, as a year on only 48 per cent admitted having done so.

"We are well on the way; that is a great result," she said.

But Mr McCoskrie said the new poll showed the percentage opposed to the anti-smacking law had risen to 73 per cent from 62 per cent last year.

Men, people aged more than 60 and those from rural areas opposed it most strongly.

He said only 19 per cent strongly or somewhat agreed with the new law despite the police discretion clause, down from 29 per cent last year.

Almost half of those surveyed - 47 per cent - strongly disagreed with the ban on smacking.

Mr McCoskrie said 85 per cent of those polled - up from 82 per cent a year ago - agreed the new law should be changed to state that parents who gave their children a smack that was reasonable and for the purpose of correction were not breaking the law.

He said the polling sent a clear message to political parties seeking support for this year's election.

When asked whether their support for a party would be affected if it promised to change the law, 37 per cent said they would be more likely to vote for that party. This was up from 31 per cent last year.

The number of people whose vote would be unaffected by a policy to change the law fell from 59 per cent last year to 53 per cent this year.

Mr McCoskrie said the results showed New Zealanders had not been fooled by the anti-smacking lobby's claim that smacking was child abuse.

"They haven't been duped by arguments that children are damaged by reasonable smacking, and they have understood that our unacceptable rate of child abuse has far deeper root causes than a loving parent who corrects their child with a smack on the bottom," he said.

Asked if they thought the new law was likely to help reduce child abuse, 79 per cent said it was not at all likely. This figure was up from 77 per cent last year.

Organisers of a petition to reverse the anti-smacking law change have until the end of next month to gain the number of signatures needed to force a non-binding referendum at this year's election.

Children's Commissioner Cindy Kiro said yesterday that she had not seen the survey.

But she urged people to move on and learn better parenting skills.

"The key message is, 'For goodness sake, can't we move on?' So much energy has been wasted debating this."

Dr Kiro said people needed to learn and be encouraged in positive parenting.

She believed there was a trend away from physical punishment.* The poll was conducted during the week beginning May 12 and has a margin of error of 3.1 per cent.

Sunday, February 24, 2008

Cindy Kiro gets violent

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Cindy Kiro, the Children's Commissar, has gone feral over the weekend and it looks like a violent reaction to the truth about child rearing has smacked her in the face and waken her from her slumber in her deep welfare dependent taxpayer funded black leather chair.

In the wake of the anti anti-smacking petition getting the required amount of signatures, Kiro's mouth continues to cash cheques that she cant back up with any real currency.

She calls those who voted for the petition"extreme" and I guess by definition and inclusion the majority of New Zealanders, who would like to be able to use a small smack on the hand or a safe part of the body, as a part of good and loving parenting, without going to prison or being told on by their children, other parents or teachers.

She calls the petition organisers "misleading" regarding how they got so much support for their petition. The mirror would be a good place to start when little Cindy utters this kind of clap trap.

I have been told a story about 2 young boys who discussed among themselves about whether they should tell their teacher about one of them being smacked lightly for being a horrible little child. The children didn't tell because the one who wasn't smacked told his father and both families got together and discussed it. The boys came to the conclusion that it would have been wrong to tell on the parent, and rightly so.

Kiro and the lefty lot who push their poisonous legislation on us want to undermine parents authority, that is clear in the example I explained above and it would have led to that parent being interrogated by the police, just for being a Father.

The fact is the majority of good parents in this country disagree with Kiro and would also share the view, that it is she with the problem and not those of us who know that a little smack is not child abuse and is good for the child when done with love.


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