Showing posts with label Josef Roberts. Show all posts
Showing posts with label Josef Roberts. Show all posts

Monday, June 15, 2009

Burger Fuel doesn't rule out capital raising

















I took a look at the Burger Fuel Worldwide [BFW.NZ] profit for the Full Year to 31 March 2009 last week and one of the concerns for me was that the cash position was more than halved over the year to just over NZ$1.5 million.

Chris Mason, Burger Fuel CEO noted in the release in the "BFW Outlook" part of the document that:

The board of directors have advised that the BFW strategy remains consistent with the previous year. The group is focused on three main areas:

1) Continued growth of the total system sales in NZ, by way of increased store sales as well as an increased number of stores. However, the board is mindful of the current economic climate.

2) Continuing to build up trading in both Australian stores to ensure future profitable expansion can ultimately occur in Australia.

3) Negotiating Area Development or Master Franchise agreements in other identified countries to earn royalties and other revenue by licensing the BurgerFuel system.

Given the global and local economic situation, a key focus has been on reducing costs to ensure that the group can preserve cash and eventually reach profitability. In the last six months to 31 March 2009 the company was close to breaking even. Costs will continue to be managed in accordance with board policy, however further losses are expected in the 6 months to 30 September 2009, due to the requirement to support international markets and also continue to expand NZ. Chris Mason, Burger Fuel CEO.

With cost cutting and wise capital management a primary issue for BF management, I thought a few questions to Josef Roberts, a Burger Fuel Executive director, were warranted, concerning the subject of dwindling cash reserves and the possibility that extra capital could be warranted to continue IPO flagged expansion.


I had the following brief email exchange with Josef on the topic of capital raising.


Share Investor  Could BF investors learn how the company will expand as cash reserves are half what they were last year and getting very low as of 31/3/09.

Will the company have to borrow or ask for money from shareholders to grow?

Josef Roberts  As you aware I am not in a position to answer any questions like that. These are matters for public announcement if and when deemed appropriate by the board of directors.

S.I. That is fair enough but can you tell shareholders what expectations there are for growth given the rapidly dwindling cash position of BFW and therefore the possibility of a halt because of capital restraints?

J.R. Darren – like many company’s right now capital is scarce. We are no different and lack of capital affects growth – that’s for real, however, we have no debt and as you can see by our losses over the last 6 months, we can stem these by reducing investment. We would like more capital – of course we would – and it is certainly on our radar, we always wanted to raise $15M and we know that additional capital would speed up results. However, there are ways we can still grow on less capital and that’s what we are focusing on for now.

S.I. I am sure shareholders wouldn't mind investing more if there was a rights issue or some such capital raising. Now is a good opportunity to expand given cheaper leases and real estate costs.

J.R. You are right for sure – now is the time to invest in expansion. I will be sure to let you know if we decide to look at a capital raise and if this was done at a good price - well maybe we would get the uptake. Anyway - as I say these things are on the radar Darren.


Take it as you may readers but Josef is dead right, his company is in a position that many others are in and that some have faced already.

In my own portfolio for example 4 of my companies have already raised a total of more than $NZ 600 million in new capital and I have participated in 3 of them (1 2 3) to the tune of $7000.00.

Burger Fuel is no different.


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Tuesday, July 8, 2008

Stock's I'd buy, at a price: Burger Fuel




Now I have given Burger Fuel Worldwide [BFW] a LOT of stick over the last year or so about some of their decisions and their initial IPO being way overpriced.

So much stick in fact that one of the directors that I had a friendly acquaintance with and could contact him about company progress no longer returns my calls.

Tough luck, never mind Mr Rickard, get over it!

Well, I don't really have anything to get over, never had Josef Roberts , I really love the concept, brand and company. I just don't like the value that you place on it.

The initial IPO put the capital value of the company at NZ $60 million, it is now worth less than half that at today's share price. I would personally value it at around $10 million, roughly a third of today's value, as a purely speculative play, rather than a solid business investment.

Sales for the franchisee outlets run at approx $20 million of which BFW, as the franchisor, have around a 10% gross cut of that figure, for royalties, group advertising spend ,management and training and other fees. Around $2 million gross.

Company start up costs and early expansion have chewed up a value meal sized portion of that $2 million plus the same sized portion again, making for a just over $2 million loss.

Theoretically these costs should be proportionally smaller as the company grows and so does revenue but if you were looking at putting a value on the company today, you would have to discount today's capital value down from $30 million to $10 million because of uncertainty over those continued expansion costs.

As an investor you would have to ask yourself how much would I pay to get $2 million of gross revenue per year? Personally I wouldn't pay more than $10 million bucks.

Wheres the present and future value of Burger Fuel though?

http://media.apn.co.nz/webcontent/image/jpg/burger7.jpg

Burger Fuel: Yummy Burgers, but a highly
over-valued
Brand.


Well. I reckon BF management put most of the value in their company in its brand, which is a strong one, and one that management relied upon to get investors interested in the IPO, but as I have mentioned before I think they put too much value in that brand.

Which leaves me with a more realistic valuation based on a dollar return and high risk, rather than possible worldwide domination of Burger Fuel's fast food outlets.

I'm interested therefore at buying at anything around 17c per share, it is at 40c today and its IPO price last July was $1.

I must note the share price has been down to a low of 11 c.

Are we friends again Josef? I love your Bastard Burger.

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Thursday, June 12, 2008

Burger Fuel leaves investors hungry

Burger Fuel's gourmet burgers are delicious, ample, fresh and have plenty of filling. It is a shame that its latest profit results are meagre, lacking in substance and leave investors hungry.

Too negative?

Just look at the revenue for the last 9.5 month reporting period. Around NZ$4.7 million. This is derived from a 10% cut out of Franchisee's turnover, which probably totaled around NZ$15 million for that period. 4% of that revenue was used for marketing of the company. The balance of the revenue comes from a construction management fee, a franchise territory fee, a franchise training fee and revenue from company owned stores.

On this revenue Burger Fuel Worldwide [BFW] reported an audited loss of $2,149,067 for the nine-and-a-half month period to 31 March 2008.


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The IPO raised around $8 million dollars cash in July 2007, with $3 million contributed from the company founders because the IPO flopped, and as of 31 March 2008 it had chewed through almost $5 million of it. Granted there have been costs involved in opening a company owned store in Sydney and costs establishing the company as a franchisor to the chain of owner operator stores but as a franchisor Burger Fuel's store opening costs should be largely covered by franchisee fees and contributions as outlined above.

What it looks like is that there will be more capital needed in 12-16 months to continue company expansion.

As an investor and business owner myself, I like to be making money from my enterprise from day one. Of course there are capital costs in a "start up" such as BFW but as the listed life of this company is now almost a year old, the promise of profit doesn't look good as the company expands.

The company should be making a small profit already, excluding the almost $1 million cost of the IPO, but one of the answers why they might not be could lay here:

This included an additional elected marketing spend in NZ of $339,304 over and above the franchisee marketing budget for the period.If the franchise model is a sound one as the company expands then why would the franchisor spend money above and over the amount the franchisee pays to do the marketing? Should the marketing fee be bigger given that $339,304.00 is not a small amount of money when you consider the small revenue base and small number of stores at present?


A big worry is the progress of the brand in Australia


BurgerFuel Australia unaudited system sales for the period 1 April 2007 to 31 March 2008 are $1,453,892.


With two stores opened in OZ, one in Kings Cross opened since October 2007 and an established one in Newton, the revenue of the two combined of only $1.45 million is tiny.

An outlet based in Sydney's Kings Cross should be doing well north of A$2 million per year to cover the high costs of being based in that area. Rents are high and as this store is company owned it will have to do much better as to not continue to be a drain on franchisor company profit.

All is not lost though!

One small promising light shines from the deserts of Dubai where BFW signed a Master Franchisee agreement in May with Al Khayyat Investment Group Investments LLC to open a store there latter in the year.

The financial details of that deal are sketchy but we all wait in hope for good sales figures for the first few months to help give investors an indication if the concept will fly in a market already saturated with manifold more times competition for the disposable entertainment buck than the company faces in Australasia.

Burger Fuel reminds me of the 42 Below Vodca company, which was listed a few years back. It had a very strong brand and loyal following and struggled initially because it didn't have the funds or systems to take the company and its product to the world. It never made money but was eventually sold to Bacardi for NZ$138 million in 2006 and they had the backing and moola to take the brand somewhere.

Is Burger Fuel destined to be bought up by a YUM! or one of the many worldwide operators of fast food brands?

You never know, Josef Roberts, a director of Burger Fuel, did just that when he started up the Australasian Red Bull company and then sold it to the parent .

Judged by the latest profit announcement this could be Burger Fuel investors only hope for a return on their money.


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Wednesday, May 7, 2008

Burger Fuel management cagey over company progress


Further to the story about Burger Fuel Worldwide[BFW] signing a master franchise deal with a business in Dubai, I mentioned I was going to ask Josef Roberts, Executive director of the company a couple of questions to flesh out the details of the deal to the market and his investors.

He was very accommodating before the July IPO, granting me an email interview about where the company was going, in some detail.


Here were the questions I put to him yesterday


Hi Josef, I hope you are well.

Interesting announcement today re the Dubai franchise deal. It took me by surprise.

On that note, I wonder if you could inform my readers as to some of the finer points of the deal and some of the reasons why you took the business across the other side of the planet.

Assuming you could answer some questions because the market is speculating.


1: why are you going to develop a new overseas market before establishing the current Australian one?

2: Did the Dubai company approach BF or you them?

3: Are the terms of the master franchise similar to that of individual franchisee agreements in New Zealand?

4: What number of outlets do you see in Dubai?

5: Are customers likely to be locals or expat kiwis/Aussies/Brits etc?

6: How will the BF menu be different in such a unique country?

7: What experience does the Dubai company have being a food franchisor?

8 How is Burger Fuel Worldwide going in terms of revenue created for the Franchise company as a whole and are you on track?

9: How has your experience of your company now differ from what you thought it would be when you initially planned this listed franchising model, have things changed considerably?

10: Is Australia proving difficult to crack, given the amount of competition in Sydney?

11: How has the current credit crises affected your business expansion, if at all, and is the associated economic slow down having any affect on store sales?

12: Finally, where do you see Burger Fuel being in 12 months?


I would appreciate your assistance in informing my readers. There is much google interest on our blog every time you guys have a press release and we have had a handful of Dubai hits today, just as a matter of interest.

Regards, Darren



Josef's answer to my questions


Hello Darren

To paraphrase your own comments about BurgerFuel and me – “Go Figure”.

All the best.

All I can say is it would have been nice to hear some detail about the Dubai deal and where his company might be heading and how it was doing.

My questions were really stimulated by the company and its big leap right across to the other side of the world before being properly established outside New Zealand, in their first overseas market, Australia.

I felt that his investors might like to know the finer points of this move.

As I said above, Josef was very accommodating before the Burger Fuel IPO and I was expecting the same sort of candidness as the company progressed.

I realise his curt response maybe motivated by some of my criticism but after all it is only my opinion and therefore his side of the story would at least balance things.

Nevertheless I still wish him and his company well and hope his lovely burgers(minus the bacon) take off in Dubai.



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Monday, May 5, 2008

Burger Fuel cooks up a Dubai deal


They will be eating Burger Fuel burgers in Dubai soon, thanks to Burger Fuel Worldwide[BFW] management signing a Master franchise agreement with Dubai based Al Khayyat Investment Group Investments LLC - a holding group with diverse business interests ranging from multinational companies, automotive, retail, schooling, leasing and real estate interests.




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It will be interesting to see the terms of the agreement, presumably it will be similar to the individual franchise agreements operated in New Zealand, Burger Fuel's home. If the Arab franchisees plunck their oil money down and really go for it, then possible investors in Burger Fuel here may get a better picture on how successful the Burger Fuel Franchise operator will fare.


Since the listed company will derive its income from ongoing royalties, currently too small to make any profit on overheads, the development of a larger group of stores will be a good indicator of the company and its long term future.

Personally, I'm still a little skeptical as to why Josef Roberts, executive director of Burger Fuel, and his fellow directors may have leaped so far across the world with their concept before developing it more fully and profitably in Australia.

Two company owned stores in Sydney just isn't a good indicator for future success outside the Australasian market.

I have so many questions about this move I have made a request to Josef ,via email , to flesh out some of the detail of today's announcement. I'm curious as to whether the Dubai company made the first move or if it was Burger Fuel's initiative.

I know there is plenty of interest about this company because every bit of news about Burger Fuel is googled incessantly, this site got alot of BF related traffic today, including a handful from Dubai, possibly kiwi ex pats.

Save for more positive concrete numbers or an indicator that things are improving financially and that the Franchisor business model will work with this type of high end food business, I clearly remain negative on the company when it comes to its present valuation of just under NZ $30 million.

Some questions need to be answered to reassure investors that management are heading in the right direction, given today's surprise announcement.

Hopefully, even though I have been critical of his baby, Josef will return my email. He has been great so far.

Burger Fuel shares were untraded at closing today, which isn't unusual. They last traded April 29 @ 45c.


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